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PHIL 103 E, Wednesday, 9-13-17

Plato, "Apology" - Old + New Accusers

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Philosophy 103 E,  September 13, 2017 I am going to record today but I’m in a do attendance send hand out these logs before I get it started this is an Have a lot of unnecessary stuff on so I want to say a few things which I need your attention that many of you’re looking at your electronic devices maybe not for purposes or fillet change focused many of the lawns were it’s recording already about that I was about to say that the pain in the hospital record it and then I’ll have to delete it later but I was about to say that the pain in the hospital record it and then I’ll have to delete it later okay so or his will start your logs what’s happening with the is called education you you’re sitting there worrying all I did the log wrong oh I didn’t know that song you knew everything that I was going to teach you you couldn’t talk to me to beginning the semester I give you credit for four Sneakin negative course so what I want to teach you what I want to talk about now as an English word in most other languages to the comes from the Greek and English words method and in Greek the same word message with the OS at the end method else and trying to be quiet put it and and put it in great is that Hotels in Greek means pass a path as a way of getting from one thing to to another most philosophical traditions intellectual divisions of any kind have somewhere like that it’s very important for example in the Chinese tradition is down TAO all the way and when the Emperor through Cicero in jail is wrong with the senator in Rome Rome turned from a Republic to an empire Republic ruled by a Senate department to the one ruled by a dictator when is roses rowing jails disrespect this time translating Greek philosophy in the lab and it came to most of us in the Western world by that directly and the trick he translated method with the simple Latin word via VI a which we find in romance languages it could be it it could be way it could be a part of the name of the street we’re going Street half send this is a metaphor it’s an analogy between an this analogy we find quite frequently when we talk about intellectual things Silver example in mathematics we talk about approvals steps is if we were walking on the path which since we are so let’s think about have to get from here to there and by doing so it connects the two of them I’m telling you about this because I want to teach you how to look it up the books like this not just for what the author says when he meant but for how the author got from here to there that kind of thing is often about each step if we are to give an outline of Plato’s apology which were talking about here today if it would look something like this I have an outline in my notes that I could look at but this strikes me is probably pretty close to what off on their big fat so your instructor in giving you long topics is pointing at this price list for that long to which just got back you were to look at the old accusers then the new is Something like that in both of them so for example and the in the one you just gave me the new users after he questions mellitus and got refuse the actual charges he poses a question that neither melodist or anybody else for the deposes for himself he challenges himself so to speak by asking you know did you do this but whatever it was you didn’t why did you do it must don’t something well in the second case that here in the first case with the old talk about tomorrow in this in the case of the second of the new book users the actual charges before the court after dismissing those impossible refuting the charges is brief and easy in both cases old and new the interesting thing is that is the question comes next so in the case of the actual trial Socrates imposes the following question suppose we believe you Socrates that you’re innocent you didn’t do those things nevertheless you lived in such a way any’s already talked about this for the Oracle Delphi how we live so we got you be charged brought a trial and condemn or possibly condemn that hasn’t happened yet this point and maybe even put to death so he’s being asked threes asking himself why he would act in ways that would risk this rather than living how what’s the alternative how many people are charged with corrupting the use in teaching gods of the gods of Athens and making the worst is better probably not many he is he’s not the only one there were some others but what is it that he says he’s doing what are the qualities doing what is the call the activities of his life Philosophy yes so so what’s the question is being asked that he raises by himself okay suppose you didn’t do this charges you been engaged in what what is even doing Philosophy yes and so the question is now why do that if I can get you in trouble right isn’t this the kind of advice we all get from from time to time course of our lives from people care about us why do it it’s as good make trouble for you whether the good thing to do or not the people worry about be safe happy whatever right raise that kind of question Socrates is raising about himself another words he’s offering the anti-it for his defense is not requiring any show not only that he didn’t do a bad thing but the possibly at least good thing that he didn’t do is worth doing even if what and what could happen if you think it is accused of tight even definitely dad okay but CCL we have a parallel there to the Duffy court I didn’t do what they said he says about the duck says about the old accusers and the evidence and he gives is that it is a little bit like say here’s the photograph here’s me right look-alike so the idea that he’s a teacher crafting the use is easily refuted by the fact that teachers well actually some teachers teachers